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Post by Pronch Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:43 am

@Speck-san: LOL The video /shot. Well again the bgm too low D: Everyone have a problem or it's me? ;3; I don't have many notices :3 Your voice is nice but your mic kills it ;n; New mic? /shot. & some parts need harmonies :3 ( That's so helpful OTL )
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Post by Aziro Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:38 am

@Pronch: O.O' I didn't put harmonies in my video. As for the background music I'm always told it over powers my voice so I turn it down too low but I thought the balance was quite nice in this video. Oh well I'll try and fix that issue when it come time to make another video.

@Speck: Like pronch your mic quality could use alittle help but I'm here to critique your singing not your mic quality ^.^' As for your singing. You sound slighty unconfident and sometimes your voice tends to lose energy and goes flat. You sound as if you're trying to sing when everyone is asleep and you don't want to wake them up. Sing out and add more energy to your singing. Also your 'La's at the beginning of the song and the middle part of the song you sounded so unsure like you couldn't make up your mind whether they were supposed to go there. Also there were some slight timing issues. As for positives I liked the Announceation you had throughout the video the listener could clearly tell what syllabls you were singing and when. You also have a nice smooth voice so be more confident and bring it out.

Sorry if my critique was harsh I'm used to giving straight forward critiques. I'm not doing it to be mean I just want to let you know what you could work on so that you're fandubs can improve. I say it out of love ^.^v
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Post by Ciel Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:24 pm

@Pronch: XD;; thank you! I wish I had a cuter voice ><;;. Oh well, I'll make do! There are songs I can sing that cute voices can't!! And my friend somehow became my husband today, rofl!

Okies, some crits~

@Aziro: Very pretty! You run out of energy on the high notes here and there, and take really really unsuitable big breaths (can be minimised through making them softer in mixing). You're also a bit pitchy here and there, and I think more because you run out of energy to carry the phrases? Like I kept getting the impression that you keep running out of energy while singing XD;;. It's a tough ballad to sing though, so I'm not surprised. You fudged the timing here and there too ><;; (sorry, that sort of thing really bugs me XD). Your voice just sort of feels really...heavy though. Like, not light/airy enough for this song...!? It's nothing to do with your singing, just me thinking it doesn't quite suit the song XD;;.
I think what this was lacking the most was definitely emotion. That's what sets a good ballad apart from an amazing one. Feel the song!! FEEEEEL IT!!!! *shot*

@Speck: Mic...T___T. Then again I've been spoiled by the fact all my Nico friends own expensive mics lmao (you don't know how amazing skype convos are when you can hear everyone). You sound like you're mumbling the lyrics the entirely way through to be honest - they're mostly right, but you sound very unconfident ><. Sing out more!! Some parts were super cute though :3. The high notes in the chorus and C-mero sounded like a challenge for you though - your voice sounds like a very very smooth alto voice, and you sounded best on the low notes!



Uh, not a singing critique, more of a mixing one! First time I've seriously mixed for someone other than me, and I want to know people's opinions! It's also my second time mixing with Cubase ><

Original song: Hatsune Miku - Whammy Anarchy
My mix: harakiri - Whammy Anarchy (featuring harakiri-san from NND~)
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http://www.box.net/shared/3qcphnvbal (if you don't have an NND account)

I joined in on the high harmonies by the way! harakiri-san is inhuman and can sing really high, but not THAT high XD (i barely hit them though >>)


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Post by Speck Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:26 pm

@Aziro and Pronch and Ciel

Thanks. I can't really help the mic quality. My parents are cheap. DX I do add harmonies, but I guess I just don't do them loud enough.
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Post by Pronch Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:21 pm

@Ciel-san: Ha ha ha. I hope he/she's a good husband =D For the song that you mixed ( I listened to it yesterday night o3o)b ) I really like how you mixed it >u< Some parts are so awesome♥️ The bgm is not too low & the voice either. I don't have bad notices. Serious work are always amazing♥️ Keep working hard :3 btw, I guess Harakiri-san can't speak English for not come here XD Well, if no, tell to him that his voice is really awesome ( Yours too c: )*A* Kinda like a uke or shota♥.
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Post by Aziro Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:51 pm

@Ciel: Thanks for the critique. lol My voice is the type of voice that really doesn't suit any song. but I still try darn it lol anyways thanks again I'll work on it.
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Post by MichiChan Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:18 pm

I want to do as best as possible on this duet so here I go...
My first version...:
http://www.box.net/shared/d52sbhx9vz
Ignore the mixing for now XDDD I didn't mind the mixing.
Also the harmonies..I'm not sure if they're completely on tune because i sang along to a harmoniless karaoke ;3;.
and the falsetto sucks. I admit ;3; And the scream too unstable..
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Post by Ciel Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:36 pm

@Pronch: Sample conversation with the husband (who's a guy, btw XD). Our convos are ALWAYS this ridiculous 8DDD
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Ahh, thanks! I spent like...8? 9 hours? mixing it XD;;. My first time playing with mastering a final output actually, so I was worried I may have made the instrumental sound funny Q__Q. And I'll tell him ^o^
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Post by MichiChan Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:43 pm

@Ciel:
Why the hell does that conversation seem so familiar to the ones i have everyday? XDDD
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Post by ChoAkkar ♥ Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:43 pm

LOL CIEL! Actually, I could have understood it without the translations - but meeeeh, that's just cute when he said "chigau" (well, to you guys it should be "er i mean")... But ahaha. xD

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Post by Fruutella Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:48 pm

can you also post yet to finish stuff? owo
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Post by Pronch Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:54 pm

@Ciel-san: Nice conversation 8D I want a friend like that '3' btw, as I said serious work are always amazing♥️
@Michi-san: I really like your « Aaa » 8D That didn't destroy my ears :3 & your voice ish cute ( I blushed at the « mahou o↑ » XD Dunno why ) Sometimes, your voice is boy-ish & suddenly after it's like a girl o_o; It's because of that the song is really difficult >:c or you change into girl because the boy sing too in that part & like this , this is equal? o3o;; I don't really listen to this song really often. The mix is fine =D
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Post by Ciel Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:07 pm

@Pronch: Mujunchan is hilarious 8D. He also doesn't sleep right but uh, neither do I XD. Thank you >w<! I really want to become better at mixing, which is why I switched to Cubase, but uaosihdglkas this program is so hard. And mastering is hard too, I can't tell when I've fudged the quality too much >_<
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Post by Tsukiyo Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:11 pm

@89924: I think it sounds pretty good. But, like low notes tend to be, there are moments when you get the "bored" tone. I don't know how to fix that, but perhaps practice more with it to get your voice comfortable with the range. There are also some notes that sound slightly off, but that's to be expected in a low range you don't usually sing in. Practice would make things better. Also, it sounds like you're just learning the song right now, so it's alright for it not to be perfect.
I loooove what you're doing with some of the notes, sliding up/down to the next one. It adds to the effect that's supposed to be given off from this song and it's great. Turning the karaoke track on louder could cover some glitches and generally, could make your voice blend with the track even more.

Overall, good job!


And now my turn. A friend of mine I showed this to said my Len voice sounded fake. What do you think?

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Post by MichiChan Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm

@Pronch: Ah thank you~ I think i did it like that because of power problems....I don't remember 8D;
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Post by Pronch Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:37 am

@Someone who need a surname aka 89924: I agree with Tsukiyo-san u_u But is it a serious dub? xD Because we don't really hear the bgm & sometimes you say something ( & forget lyrics xD ) but that was fun XDD Anyway, you're voice is sexy ;A; I want your voice ;_;
@Tsukiyo-san: Firslty, nice mixing >uo)b Really liked it :'3 & your Len isn't fake xD You have a great voice ( so hot ;A; ) & OH the end ;v; Maybe put some effects will be good =D For example when he's saying something ( well with the " somethigsomething♥️ " XDD I don't know how to say that in english D: )
@Michi-san: You're welcome :3 You should note why you do somethings on paper? o3o; Maybe... orz My ideas are so stupid >_<;
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Post by Tsukiyo Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:55 pm

@Pronch: glakshdflkas I forgot to reply to this.

Thanks! R-really? I thought I was horrible at mixing. D: Pfft, thanks, I'm glad my voice doesn't sound fake. xD Hmm... effects? I'm not quite sure exactly what you mean, but I think I might have an idea. Thank you, I'll consider it. <3
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Post by Kumbancha Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:06 am



attack me all you want

Lol
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Post by Pronch Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:16 pm

@Kumbancha-san: Oh~ Nice cover =D The bgm & your voice is not too low & not too loud :3 This is good, but 2 times I heard a mistake 8D HUHUHHUHU /shot. & sometimes, some parts should be ... low (?) but you always sing with the same voice. Annyway, that was a good cover =D
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Post by QrMOMOKA Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:28 pm

Kumbancha wrote:

attack me all you want

Lol

Nice!Your high notes sound awesome!<3 Happiness
Here's something you might want to improve:
On the verses, which are the parts besides the chorus, some notes were a bit off. Like, "suyasuya, yume wo miteru". The red parts are only a tiny bit off, but it'll sound so much better when they're fixed. (and there's more off notes in the second verse, I asume you got tired singing XD)My suggestion is that you should practice more on lower notes.
For the chorus, you should use more of your support on the stomach. Try sending through more air. It'll soften the sharp sound when you sing high notes and make it sound more, uhmm, strong and stable? I don't know the word....
And at 4:59 that "last night" part. NO, DARLING. DON'T DO THAT TO YOUR VOCAL CHORDS. IT'LL GET DAMAGED. If your voice turns out to sound like that, stop recording for now and have a few hours or a day of rest. Really, it's bad for your voice. You don't want to damage it too much that you'll sound like that for the rest of your life. I'M NOT EVEN JOKING. IT'S POSSIBLE. The nice thing about recording is that you don't need to do the whole song in one shot, take that advantage.<3
But overall, it's a really nice cover. I'm never a fan of Last Night Good Night, but it's one of the better dubs I've heard on youtube.
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Post by MichiChan Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:45 pm

Two this time. Preview:

And the duet I did. I'm the voice that goes AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by Pronch Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:47 am

@Michi-san:
First one: Nice cover *3* You're voice really fit the song. There are not really bad things since it's a preview :3
Second: Nice mix =D & the other person is great too :3 Well, this song is pretty hard ( I think so xD ) & the scream was good but not so awesome xD I think it'll be more cool if you put some effects... effects like.. ._.; I don't know xD Just put some stuffs who can be cool /shot. ( like 2:18 x3 ) but more?
I do really like your voice =D This is so awesome♥️

FSH-san: Pretty hard song isn't it? :3 I don't know if it's your first dub but you pick a pretty hard-hard song XD But this is like ( & you do ) you do whatever xDD lol. Be more serious when you sing please? & sometimes there are mistakes c: I think this is not a good song for a boy though xD Anyway, I'm happy to hear how your voice is c:
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Post by Ciel Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:00 am

@Kumbancha: LNGN is a hard song to pull off, and yet everyone tries to sing it Q_Q. WHY!?!?!? But. My woes aside, that was not as bad as some butcherings of the song I've heard. You sound very uncomfortable singing the low notes somehow. I think it's mostly because you put a bit TOO much power into them, when really you should work to a crescendo in the chorus, and therefore start the low notes soft, and then gradually build up to the chorus. As for the chorus, especially towards the end, you were straining so badly that I wanted to like, pull you down from up there ><;;. Your notes were wavering, and they sounded very forced. Sure, you might have a big range, but I think it's better to utilise it where you're most comfortable singing :3. That's why I mostly try to stay away from the extremely high stuff these days, because while I can hit the notes, I don't sound good XDD;;.

RUNNING LATE SO I'LL COMMENT ON THE REST WHEN I GET BACK FROM LECTURES IF I HAVE TIME XD.

Anyway, uh, idk. This is not going anywhere - nico or youtube or anything. I just wanted to sing it because I love DATEKEN, but I don't sound good singing his songs, so sad. This song is so simple, but I had such a hard time singing it, and even then I struggle with the notes Q_Q. Sometime in the future I'm going to have to mix a Cardioid groupdub again, so I wanted to test the effects/mixing out as well. Again, played with mastering the track again 8D. I'm not sure if I did the mastering well though - the vocals sound too loud...? I have no idea! I hate listening to my voice! XD

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