Criticism, anyone?

Some people just want a little criticism on thier singing.
Maybe they want mistakes pointed out before they send in vocals for a chorus or group dub.
Or maybe they just want to know how they can improve.

SO, I've made this topic for exactially that.
Pure, undeluted, criticism.

Just post something that you want criticized or criticize someone else's file.
This is NOT the place where you say "OH, THAT WAS SO GOOD."
...Well, you can, but it's for CRITICISM.
NOT ALL OUT COMPLIMENTS.
If you hear anything wrong, tell them.
Don't hold back.
They came here for criticism.
Pure truth.
BE A SIMON.

That being said, POST AWAY!

ok then I'd like a critique on my video making skillz please (if that's allowed?)

Those who're critiquing go all out. I'm used to harsh critiques so don't worry about hurting my feelings. ^.^v

[This topic is a very good idea, I really appreciate the reviews of what I do.)

@Aziro : I think he lacks the assertion in his voice, he lacks the "power". I mean, it feels like a hesitation. I think we must sing surely, we have to know a bit what we sing.
It also lacks some accuracy for the notes.

XD Actually, I watched this topic last night, so I can wait untill someone else critic first.

@Aziro

First of all, I have to say that I'm just saying what I think can be improved on your video. I am NOT trying to be mean or anything. Though if you're posting it here, it must mean that you're ready for harsh critics XD But too bad, I don't know how to critic harshly<3
The first thing that comes in mind after finished watching your video is that the video is not so eye-catchy. There's a lack of contrast. If you're using light, white-ish background, you might want to make the patterns on the background more white. Make the icons of the singers stand out more by editing them: higher the saturation, higher the contrast too if needed.
The pattern you added in the icons only worked well for the blue one. In the purple one and yellow one, you have patterns going over character's faces, which definatly won't look that nice..
You might also want to add more movements other than "move from here to here".
Ah right and another thing, NEVER ever ever take out the names of the singers. It must be on the tag.

I think that's all..^^|||

@KiChan: ^.^' I ment the video not the singing but I'll make sure to work on that

@Momo: Thanks. I don't mind harsh critiques I'm used to them from band and voice acting. I more in-depth they are the more mean they sound but the more you can improve on. I'm very good at taking critiques ^.^ So I'll work on what you said thanks for the honest critique ^.^v

I would like someone to criticize on my singing. And not tell me to go fetch a professional singing teacher. Because singing will never be my profession.



Singing is just a hobby but I would like to improve on it.

@ChoAkkar
that electro-like-style does not suit you

Thank you, ChiisanaMelody. ^^;;

omg I was just going to make a thread like this xDDDD

@ ChoAkkar
XD Again, no offence, just what I truely felt.

First of all, there's a BIG problem on the autotunes. Are you sure you are using the right scale? Because, almost none of the notes are right after 0:16. Also, to achieve a better electric-sounding voice, it's better if you use the graphical method of autotunes. It's so much easier to edit than the "keyboard" method. (though it takes a bit more time and patience)
Second thing is the timing. There's no shortcut for this. All you can do to get a better timing is to:
1. Listen to the song, get very familiar with it. (you can sing along with the karaoke with the right timing, right pitch, accuate notes) Usually this step needs from 2 hours to months.
2. Record.
3. Listen to your voice with the karaoke, but make your voice a lot louder so you can hear the imperfections. If your timing is more than "a bit" off, delete, record agian. Usually, for each section of a song, I record at least twice, just to get it perfect.
4. If there's just this one single note that's off-timed, edit it by deleting or adding some blanks.

>_____________> I feel like I've talked too much....

well, I'm not done with this dub yet, but I'd like some feedback on how it's coming along thus far
http://www.4shared.com/file/226190910/b6001cb/11_Bullet_for_Prisonersample.html
o3o yeah ^^;

QrMOMOKA, don't worry about it.
They came here for criticism, after all!

And SUDDI... BEAT YOU TO IT! >8D

@ Eri
XD Never heard of the original song before.
The timing in general was pretty accurate, except for the first word at 0:46 and 1:22.
You might want to focus more on the accuracy of the pitch though. Like, at 0:05, it sounds like you couldn't reach the "na". And also in the chorus, the notes were a bit off.
Also, you should sing more "openly", if you get what I mean... You need an example --> click!
You can hear the difference right? The non-openly singing makes me sound like I couldn't reach the note or something, while the openly sing make me sound confident and emotionful(>____> is that even a word?) You also need to kind of manage which part of the song you should sing louder, which part lower, to make the song more uhmm....dramatic i guess?

>_________> I'm like that French jugde who gives everyone a 4.5....

hmm, I'll try that
I think part of my problem, is I have the english translation, it's very sad, and I have a lot of issues with sad songs
I'm assuming you looked up the original song to compare?
erk the beginning is really hard ;A; because hearing her notes is hard, then they have to be clear because of the effect XD
anyways: thanks for that, I have a hard time noticing things like that on my own a lot, so I'll see what I can do to fix those trouble spots (chorus might be hard, it's very close to my break XD)

Yes I did. Listened to it and downloaded it right away because it's too awesome. XD
You're welcome darling<3 Me too, I can only see/hear the imperfections of others.. but not my own..>_____> untill a few days after I finish my dub..

IT IS AWESOME <3
agh, I can hear my imperfections, the problem is I have to check it against the onvocal, which, as I'm sure you know, is REALLY hard (because apparently people who say I have a good Luka voice have some kind of base, I can tell them apart obviously, but it's HARD XD) and yeah, I want this one to be really good o3o sooo...XD

Well, I think the only advice I can give you is to take your time. XD
It's recording, not live, so you get to rest as long as you want when it's needed.
So you can just record like, 2 or 3 sections of the song a day, so your voice will never sound tired, because you'll never be XD
And yes you do sound Luka-ish somehow XD

XD well right now I only have the roughdraft of the bridge left, then I have to go through and fixe screwy verses
and aww damn, I love being tired allover my dubs though! XD
o3o we can be eachother's dub beta's! 8D
...somehow is so specific XD

XD But don't over use your voice, like I did 2 weeks ago..
My over used throat still haven't fully recover yet...>____> whenever I sing over 1 hour non-stoply now, I start sounding like a retard...
:D Yes<3 That'll be great~~

XD well yeah, I have to save it for a concert tonight (ffffff--)
woo~awesome <3

@ChoAkkar

yeah what Chii said.. correct the auto tune. aside from that I would like to hear what your real voice sounds like without auto tune x_X;

@Eribubby

What Momo said xD; It sounds more liek you're trying not to sound loud because of the mic's puffy sound or something and some parts are off. :3
and the editing in the beginning with the voice in the left & right threw me off, I think you can try to edit the panning a bit better. Not that I'm telling you to center it. Just play with it a little bit more ^^ and the sound is suppose to be umm sad with energic feel to it? >_O; I can't feel any of that with you're voice.. maybe I dunno . sound more powerful. motional??


But I'm pretty you sure know these.. :3

onwards with my crappy pretendation dub.. 8D (wait is that even a word?)
Anyone care to throw in some annotations for me? XD;; it will be awesome >w<

XD if you could tell me how to pan better with audacity I will forever love you....
will listen and critique yours when it isn't 2AM after choral fest

Aziro wrote:@KiChan: ^.^' I ment the video not the singing but I'll make sure to work on that

Oh sorry xD

@MOMOKA - Thanks. That's not as harsh as unusually unconstructive criticism! Thank you!

...Uh, I'm apparently pretty harsh with critiques, so. Watch out? XD

ChoAkkar: Agreeing with everyone else, the autotune is really strange and I think while this song is electro-techno styled, using autotune for the whole song isn't the best idea. Autotune in selective parts work better, imo. Autotune in itself is ridiculously hard to use though, so I wouldn't blame you for that. XD

Singing-wise, I think you slip between keys? It's kind of like you're singing in the original key at one time, then slip into another key at random points. While you're singing fairly on-tune while you're in that particular key, it clashes with the karaoke, because that's all in one key. You can maybe try changing the key of the actual karaoke into an easier key for you to sing(I do that all the time orz) and sing along with the song when you're recording with earphones or something. It also helps with timing when you do that. I do think you have a nice tone to your voice though, and I know if you practice more you can sound fantastic!

EriBubby: I also get the feeling that you're holding back a bit. :O Your voice has a Luka feeling though, I like it. 8'D Be confident! You have a nice voice. Go flaunt it and sing out! 8D There were some bits where the high notes at the beginning seemed a bit hard for you, but I think it's more because you had to sing quieter and it's harder to control your voice then. It could help if you sang that part separately, so you have enough breath to get those notes good, or try checking where you're breathing? I know someone who used to put marks on the lyrics where she breathed so she knew where to not run out of breath, which seems pretty helpful. I'm looking forward to seeing the final version of this though! :D


...Also, here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/209810080/7661ec90/girlfriendtest_mong.html

I'd like some critique on this, please? Mixing and singing wise, because it's a new mic that I have no idea how to work with and I'm not used to singing these types of songs. ><