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Post by HakuraSakura on Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:21 pm

Hey there guys. I've been a retired youtaite, also known as Yuki, HakuraSakura (old youtube), UsasuYukiko (newer youtube), that has been here since May 11th, 2011. I have come back to ask you all one simple favour and one simple question.

     I've come back just for the sole purpose to ask you all to be aware of a tumblr blog that is with the username 


YOUTAITE-RAGE
and stop the hate, stop the stigma, stop the (believe it or not) cyber bulling that I, you, and many others have witnessed. It may be twitter discussions, it may be tumblr blogs, but cyber bullying is cyber bullying. Would you really be willing to sacrifice your kind, loving, and caring youtaite heart to see, hear, or deliberately hurt other people?

If you as a reader, or person feel that you cannot read anymore of this for any reasons at all, then feel free to press the X button and leave, but let me remind you that this is for your sake, your friends sake, your youtaite family's sake, and the community's sake, no matter how small this may change it, I hope that in some small POSITIVE way that it will benefit our community and make it more peaceful, accepting, and just a lovely place to be.

   
Youtaite Life Story:
In my opinion, I have always been a youtaite member to help all those in need and those who come ask for help, I've given out my skype and spammed it several countless times in the Skype Thread when i was still active as well as any other thread to promote a healthy relationship between youtaites, because at least some of you will know, that you are not alone, and that you will have someone to talk to. Desperately for a year and a half I have been trying to keep the forums alive with the help of others as well as trying to keep up with the new people entering this community, my time had to come in leaving. 

     But, tonight I simply can't stand watching drama, hate, and negativity keep building up in YTC. It was my beloved home, believe it or not, for every single moment I've been here, been with my youtaite friends, be apart of skype karaoke circles, etc. This very community, was what i looked forward to everyday, it's what kept me alive at some points because of the people I've met. 
     
Topic of Rant and What Needs to be Brought to light:
I've only read about 50 posts from this tumblr blog and I was finally done with its b*llsh*t and nonsense. Excuse me for my censored language, but this needs to stop. I've seen alot of posts and tweets every single day about how, oh, "I'm so tired of the drama in this community." or, "I wish this community had less hate," or, "I wish this community would stop causing so many negative things or events or dramas or b*tchings to happen." 

     Well hey, guess what. Promoting, supporting, even conforming to your negative compulsions to submit any kind of negative form of writing that is MEANT TO HURT OTHERS OR IS MEANT TO BE GIVEN AS A WARNING/THREAT/ETC just because you are instantly assuming exhibit A is happening because of exhibit B in the first place or simply because Person A has accumulated a sense of HATRED against Person B JUST BECAUSE they couldn't take it anymore (when clearly you have rights such as /leave whenever you feel like you don't belong here, being mistreated, etc/ and could've been avoided in the first place), or in any kind of other situation which WILL cause DRAMA/HATE due to such feelings. 

Well please let me tell you something reader, whatever you're about to read or submit to this so-called, Rage-Blogs-For-Youtaites, IS GOING TO HURT SOMEONE, ANYONE, OR ALL WHO HAVE, ARE, OR WILL READ THAT BLOG BECAUSE OF YOUR BLIND CLAIMS, IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE, AND INHUMANE SENSE OF NEGATIVITY. Either because of 


  1. Being the bystander and doing nothing about it, letting things you see, injustly or not, go on as it is.
  2. Being the victim and not calling out for helping, and when i say call out for help, call out for anyone, call out to me, I will find this person that is hurting you, and I will make them stop.
  3. Being the bully (bullying 101 - yes guys, this things called Youtaite-Rage.tumblr.com is another form of CYBER BULLYING).
     
SOLUTION TO ANY PROBLEM:
Think about why we have dramas in the first place. Person A must've gotten hurt by Person B, or vice versa, correct? Well guess what works the best. The simple plan or resolving it peacefully.


  1. Have a talk with each other.
  2. Find what exactly is the problem.
  3. Find the root of the problem.
  4. Compromise about the problem to make it up to each other peacefully (because hey, this is /supposed/ to be a peaceful community, no?)
  5. Agree on the compromise.
  6. Make up, and move on with your lives.

What sort of vices or feelings that should ONLY be involved?


  1. Open Minded.
  2. Understanding.
  3. Acceptance.
  4. Patience.
  5. How bout a good old, warm, kind heart.

And if you really must, call for an intervention. Find a person who is neutral to both sides who is 1-5 of the above listed, to help with your problem. Anything in this spoiler box, WILL HELP, as a daily problem solver (I go to an all girls catholics school, I'm more atheist than anyone alive I believe, and I am forced to be open minded because this world is just to cruel, I will not look at things Black or White, there are no one sides, two sides, there are more than f*cking 50 shades of grey here, believe it or not, there are countless, and they must all be heard, and those misheard, helped to be understood), I will tell you now, either of these two plans whether going 1 on 1 on the person or having someone help you two or how many people there are involved, solve the problem, will work. Please try, that's all you need to do to make someone smile from their heart, all i ask of you is to try in this case.
     
Think About It:
Now guess what we're all doing to make it all worse. Conforming to OR letting this piece of media that will instigate stigma which is VERY WELL KNOWN to cause mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety, and anti-social disorders. This will lead to, suicidal thoughts, self-hatred, and worse (guess or google or stay on tumblr long enough to know what REAL HATE ANONS have caused).

 Now think about it. What if because of something we could've stopped so early INSTEAD of just IGNORING it and letting it go on to CONTINUE ON HURTING OTHERS, hurts you or anyone close to you.


  1. Would you like that to happen to your family? 
  2. Would you like that to happen to your friends?
  3. Would you like that to happen to yourself?
  4. So why would you like to instigate these negative ambitions to hurt others when you can just simply make up with each other like civilized human beings we are with steps 1-6 and criteria for entering such a comprimise 1-5 as mentioned above.

Summary, Reminder, and Extra:
So to sum this all up. This Youtaite-Rage Tumblr blogging sh*t is not helping you, is not helping your friends, is not helping you /youtaite/ family, and is not helping ANYONE in this community or those WANTING TO JOIN, because these blogs or submitions of negativism, stigma inducing, and purely TOXIC, could be directed towards anyone

We cannot create a peaceful community if we keep promoting stigma behind media devices such as this tumblr blog. 
We cannot create any kind of drama/hate free community if we keep promoting stigma behind media devices such as this tumblr blog.
We should not even be allowed to think of having a MORE peaceul, drama and hate free community, if we keep promoting stigma behind media devices such as this Youtaite-Rage tumblr blog. 

Most of these so-called ragers are in fact, hypocrites. Correct me if I'm wrong which I know well damn enough I am not.

CONCLUSION:
I'm coming back to take a stand for what I believe in and that is you, our new generationg of Youtaites. I know you all can be so much, much, more than just conforming to this negativity and I'm asking you to do so too. This Tumblr page will not help promote the ideal YTC we so wish for, so instead of letting this community go downhill, I am asking you please, please, please, please from the bottom of my heart to spread this thread because I hope in some way that it is going to stop people from supporting a pro-hate-the-YTC or at least change its /line-that-cannot-be-crossed/ to something more considerate of the followers. 

     Remember that if you are not heard by your friends, there will be always, someone, anyone, that will listen to you. They WILL BE THERE FOR YOU, you don't have to show your hate and negativism publicly and hurt others in the process so you feel better. You are not bettering yourself and becoming a better person nor are you helping that person in any way possible.

     I can be contacted at tuyet.anh_0204dlyrkk if anyone needs to be listened to, if anyone needs advice, if anyone needs anything, I will be there for you when no one is not when i am most able and can, feel free to ask questions, etc.

Thank you for your precious and valuable time that you've taken to read this. Please remember to tell your friends about it, your youtaite family, anyone in this community, spread it like wildfire because this needs to stop. This can all be a better place like we want it to, no matter how small the steps, where there are opportunities, I believe that you should take it. 

I will be willing to answer any questions you may want to feel or have the urge to ask.
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Post by anichan95 on Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:13 pm

i went on the page, and its sorta like artist-confessions, but for the youtaite community.
one of the posts were even talking about a person named Jin Jin, who is also telling people how bad the page is and is ragging on her/him. it seemed totally unnessissary.
and i totally see why you think this page is so toxic. A good amount of the posts are basically encouraging younger youtaite to not be in the community, and are even telling people to stop acting like themselves?? its bad.
some of these posts mannn
http://25.media.tumblr.com/a239d85f740a77ee78768b630ad30064/tumblr_mw4mdyz9c01sjo8j3o1_1280.png
http://31.media.tumblr.com/8c3dc5f46c5b0a0570f64a3c3fa597ff/tumblr_mw4swri9Hc1sjo8j3o1_1280.png
http://24.media.tumblr.com/0578dbbbf4fd221f42fc3bc3f1fa1feb/tumblr_mw4t100kZn1sjo8j3o1_1280.png
http://31.media.tumblr.com/8bff90047fe15e553a4de09ed663a21e/tumblr_mw4m79cy421sjo8j3o1_1280.png
http://25.media.tumblr.com/75f0134e131877bfcd8cc6ceb506772d/tumblr_mw4w993VAW1sjo8j3o1_1280.png
the rejected confessions are the worst.
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Post by anichan95 on Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:22 pm

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Post by HakuraSakura on Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:00 pm

sobs bump because wHY IS THIS THING STILL UP BRING IT DOWN AND STOP HATING ON EACH OTHER. 

THIS COMMUNITY IS A FAMILY NOT A BATTLEGROUND FFS.
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Post by Aisuu aka RiEDe on Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:32 am

THAT TIME SKIP WOW

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Post by ShakkahouYT on Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:53 am

I feel like I'm in the wrong for enjoying this...

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Post by Rei on Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:49 am

HakuraSakura wrote:sobs bump because wHY IS THIS THING STILL UP BRING IT DOWN AND STOP HATING ON EACH OTHER. 

THIS COMMUNITY IS A FAMILY NOT A BATTLEGROUND FFS.

yup
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Post by Aisuu aka RiEDe on Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:13 am

I--
I genuinely think some of those posts are good-- gomen
not the ones which are bashing but some of them do spread awareness

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Post by Xin on Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:14 pm

I think this is hilarious and I enjoyed reading those please don't hate me

Most of them are brutally straightforward honest criticism, some of them raise awareness and at least the admin reject the confessions that get too personal (I saw one at least).

I've seen posts like 
http://40.media.tumblr.com/3675ee72760ab35ae3938b28f0a16559/tumblr_n9ugzyGVsV1sjo8j3o1_1280.png
http://40.media.tumblr.com/ad04a18ba42df168ddeca8bf69efcfb7/tumblr_n9uizgB8Kj1sjo8j3o1_1280.png
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http://40.media.tumblr.com/7b8e0963ee4de84d945419977d706d92/tumblr_nct8p6kEGE1sjo8j3o1_1280.png


But I wish they wouldn't say those things in their backs and just tell the youtaites directly, that would actually avoid flaming in the future and at the same time that could be constructive criticism for them to improve. 

The flames aren't numerous but I do agree with the fact that some of them were really just plain mean .-.
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Post by mimirucchi on Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:55 pm

Actually I totally agree with Xin and Elf tbh
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Post by ShakkahouYT on Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:21 pm

Cynics unite?

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Post by Lucari on Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:17 pm

I don't understand why a rant blog would filter their submissions on the grounds that they're whiny or bitchy. Isn't the point to be honest about how you feel without others judging you? (I mean, why should you be judged while you're judging others??)

I get needing to rant sometimes, but the problem is that on the internet anyone can see it and get their feelings hurt. It's also very easy for people who are usually nice and considerate to post something they regret later.

Also haters gonna hate, et cetera. wtf
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Post by Aisuu aka RiEDe on Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:02 pm

Some people probably don't know how to phrase it in a way which won't hurt anyone. Some people are just direct, like really direct.. Some people /maybe/ have tried to talk to the person they're talking about in the submission but I guess they got ignored/unheard?

To be honest, that page is really an eye opener, and it reminds everyone that each individual has different opinions. To some people, the page is just a bashing place full of hate and rage and can be used to anonymously backstab/bash people. To some others, they think that the page has its use, say, spreading awareness of the problems in the community. Like how people in the past/present protest the government for this and that, hoping to achieve equality, justice, etc. 

I'll point out a few examples:
Cyan
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Post by Onion on Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:36 am

Like any other niche community on the internet, we're all base don raw talent and skills that we either are just born with or acquire over a period of time. I may not be the best advocate about this and my overall opinions of the Youtaite community are very strict and judgmental, I'm going to say this:
For as long as the Youtaite community will be based upon singing and performance/entertainment, there will be hate. There will be flames. There will be judgmental assholes with superiority complexes. They will be there, they will always be there. There is no about of pledging or voting for these things to cease. If you cannot handle such a minute dose of hatred and finger pointing then you do not belong in this community because if you find anonymous submissions that are vaguely referencing situations with no clear target enraging or disrespectful, then the flames that well-known people receive will tear you apart.
While yes, these type of things are bad and promote by being a Youtaite, hoping for them to disappear will not make them disappear. Hell this the the 7th Youtaite submission blog I've seen. So take it in an swallow it with pride because at the end of the day you're just singing Japanese songs on the internet.
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Post by Lucari on Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:55 pm

That's the point, though. If we're just nobodies singing Japanese songs on the internet, why is all the hate necessary? Why do people even care enough to rage?

You are right though, not much can be done. But personally I feel like if I can be part of this community, anyone can. I used to be very sensitive and get my feelings hurt over every little thing and the idea of sharing anything I'd sung, drawn or written on the internet was scary to me. I'm not nearly known enough to get hate but the idea that it might someday happen doesn't bother me so much anymore.

The best thing to do is support the members of the community and maintain at least some sites where people feel safe from hate and judgement.
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Post by Onion on Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:18 pm

Lucari wrote:That's the point, though. If we're just nobodies singing Japanese songs on the internet, why is all the hate necessary? Why do people even care enough to rage?
Because we all like to complain about things. 90% of the Youtaite-Rage blog is basically people just thowing out nit-picky complaints like IE submissions #308 and #302.
I'm also going to say that taking down a blog where people are voicing their opinions isn't going to solve anything. By cutting out "ragey" comments we're basically shooting our community in the freedom speech knee and when we lose that we just become a community that facades under being friendly and happy when in actuality it's not. The best solution is to just let bygones be bygones and move on. People are gonna have nasty stuff to say to others. People are gonna have differing opinions of negative attitudes towards others. A lot of the youtaites talked about on these blogs have accepted the fact that there ARE going to be people that you can't please. I'm not saying that we should let these blogs run rampant and completely destroy everyone's happiness and fun, but cutting them out isn't going to help either. By just letting it exist as what it is, an anonymous rant box, and moving on we keep the community at a steady balance.
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